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What's happening at BTR *17*
#81
(03-16-2019, 05:04 PM)CyberMage Wrote:
(03-14-2019, 01:02 PM)apoppin Wrote: EVGA GTX 1660 review with 41 games
https://babeltechreviews.com/evga-gtx-16.../view-all/

I bought a 1080 Ti FT3 off a guy who said he had just got it back from warranty exchange from EVGA and had lots of good references. Seemed pretty pristine, he might be telling the truth.

No Turing for me unless they release a 1080 Ti like $700 card, don't care enough to pay $1000 for a graphics card these days. The FT3 wasn't much more than I'll get for my 1080 Ti FE, and runs my games well at 3440 X 1440, so yay me I guess.  Paladin

The RTX 2080 is a bit faster than a GTX 1080 Ti and it's just under $700 at a few etailers now.
https://babeltechreviews.com/benchmarking_turing_rtx/5/

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1...html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjwvbLkBRBbEiwAChbckQhMXIpI3mTF-QrG2qYo4jMhliecNjprVoFZuH3kM7rNTs4_n3wcJBoCda0QAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y
#82
Eh, that's a cheesy 1710MHz low end 2080. IMHO, the 1080Ti FTW3 is a better card, and was only $630.. I got $580 for my FE, so a pretty fair trade to lose the Fe cooling solution without having to tinker on the card.

I meant a 1080 Ti type card in the style of all past releases, not the new "high mid range" card. When/if NV release 2080Ti performance at $700, I will buy. While it's over $1000, I will not.

Some little used graphics features and framerate increases I don't need aren't sufficient to get me to cough up $500 difference in 1080 Ti sale price and 2080 Ti buy price.  

https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/339...ers-bought

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64650/nvi...index.html

And it looks like I'm not alone.

But it's pretty much always been that way. There's a very small market for $1000+ graphic cards (and CPUs) and a much larger market for $700 GPUs. We've seen that for many years.
#83
I wouldn't call it cheesy since it will still beat a GTX 1080 Ti FTW performance when both cards are overclocked; however, you are correct - a RTX 2080 FTW is about $880 after MiR
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...6814487414

My own personal belief is that Nvidia replaced the Titan XP with the RTX 2080 Ti as the top card but left the GTX 1080 Ti owners with no good upgrade path and they will correct this with the next generation at 7nm. The RTX 3080 will probably deliver above the performance of the RTX 2080 Ti at ~$800 and the Ti will continue to be the expensive $1000+ halo card.

Nvidia had to introduce RTX when AMD is unable to compete. If they didn't, we would not see ray tracing for 1-2 more generations. No publisher would OK ray tracing development without an established user base. These are huge die complex cards with probably low yields to start that cost a lot to make. It's an expensive gamble that looks long term to me and the early adopters will always pay for it.

I think you made a decent choice and an inexpensive upgrade that is perfect for 3440x1440 and you can easily afford to wait until the next generation when we will see more ray traced games that will take advantage of the RTX features. At this point, there are still only two games that are partially ray traced. I bet we will hear a lot more about games that incorporate ray tracing in the upcoming months with a lot of game announcements as GDC/GTC/PAX/E3 etc. gets under way this Summer.

(03-17-2019, 11:54 AM)CyberMage Wrote: Eh, that's a cheesy 1710MHz low end 2080. IMHO, the 1080Ti FTW3 is a better card, and was only $630.. I got $580 for my FE, so a pretty fair trade to lose the Fe cooling solution without having to tinker on the card.

I meant a 1080 Ti type card in the style of all past releases, not the new "high mid range" card. When/if NV release 2080Ti performance at $700, I will buy. While it's over $1000, I will not.

Some little used graphics features and framerate increases I don't need aren't sufficient to get me to cough up $500 difference in 1080 Ti sale price and 2080 Ti buy price.  

https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/339...ers-bought

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64650/nvi...index.html

And it looks like I'm not alone.

But it's pretty much always been that way. There's a very small market for $1000+ graphic cards (and CPUs) and a much larger market for $700 GPUs. We've seen that for many years.
#84
Heh, if you OC that 2080 any appreciable amount:

#85
For me, the bone stock variants are tough to buy after having some Classified and FTW variants. I don't even OC anything, but quality construction is worth having in motherboards and video cards.
#86
I agree that a FTW is an upgrade over a FE for those who don't overclock.

Speaking of overclocking. This OC showdown between the GTX 1660 and the RX 590 was posted last night:
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-gtx-166.../view-all/

An Adrenalin 19.3.2 performance analysis should be posted tomorrow, Mario is working on his The Division 2 review, and I'll get back to VR for a large quarterly update.
#87
It looks like Pascal will be supporting ray tracing via an April update. It will be slower than Turing but will encourage devs to develop for a much larger established user base than just for Turing.

Smart move.
#88
Mario posted a The Division 2 game review yesterday, and I just contributed the Ultra DX12 performance results
https://babeltechreviews.com/tom-clancys...pc-review/
#89
Shadow of the Tomb Raider Ultra RTX Performance and IQ Analysis

https://babeltechreviews.com/shadow-of-t...-analysis/

To my eye, DLSS looks a bit blurry in this implementation of it.
#90
New AMD and Nvidia drivers. But skip the Nvidia drivers since they are for productivity. I'll post a 3-way comparison of Adrenalin 13.3.3 driver performance at the weekend.

Also, Oxenfree is free on Epic. You only need to install the platform. They give a game away every 2 weeks.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/388880/Oxenfree/

Very positive and $19.99.


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