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General Console Gaming Thread - SteelCrysis - 06-12-2017

Let's get it started with this:
https://www.neowin.net/news/project-scorpio-is-now-officially-039xbox-one-x039-coming-in-november
Xbox Scorpio now has an official name: Xbox One X. Coming in November for $499.


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - apoppin - 06-12-2017

I saw this today from E3. I guess it's an in-between console to compete with the PS4 Pro. And like the PS4 Pro, it won't do 4K neither.

It looks like MS wants to offer a premium product (Scorpio), a midrange product (X), and a lower end product ...
Just like PCs
:D

When is Scorpio supposed to release?


Update: XBoneX is Scorpio


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SickBeast - 06-12-2017

I'm actually enjoying watching console gaming implode. These machines make no sense. An RX480 has 6 teraflops of power. Does that mean that this new Xbox One X doesn't have Vega? Specs wise it sounds like Polaris. I wonder what happened to Vega. They're going to make another Xbox with Vega in it? What gives? Maybe Vega is more badly delayed than we know.


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - apoppin - 06-12-2017

(06-12-2017, 02:06 AM)SickBeast Wrote: I'm actually enjoying watching console gaming implode.  These machines make no sense.  An RX480 has 6 teraflops of power.  Does that mean that this new Xbox One X doesn't have Vega?  Specs wise it sounds like Polaris.  I wonder what happened to Vega.  They're going to make another Xbox with Vega in it?  What gives?  Maybe Vega is more badly delayed than we know.

I get it now .... from the PR
Quote: Sunday marked a milestone Xbox E3 Briefing as Microsoft Corp. unveiled the world's most powerful console, Xbox One X (formerly code-named "Project Scorpio") and its largest and most diverse games lineup in E3 history. Broadcast for the first time in 4K UHD on Mixer, Xbox showcased a record 42 games in its briefing including 22 with console exclusivity from creators large and small. Coming to all Xbox One markets starting Nov. 7, Xbox One X will retail for $499, 449 pounds, 499 euros, CA$599 and AU$649.1
XBox 1X *is* Scorpio ... Vega inside ... $500 ... November 7
Speechless


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SickBeast - 06-12-2017

(06-12-2017, 02:33 AM)apoppin Wrote:
(06-12-2017, 02:06 AM)SickBeast Wrote: I'm actually enjoying watching console gaming implode.  These machines make no sense.  An RX480 has 6 teraflops of power.  Does that mean that this new Xbox One X doesn't have Vega?  Specs wise it sounds like Polaris.  I wonder what happened to Vega.  They're going to make another Xbox with Vega in it?  What gives?  Maybe Vega is more badly delayed than we know.

I get it now .... from the PR
Quote:  Sunday marked a milestone Xbox E3 Briefing as Microsoft Corp. unveiled the world's most powerful console, Xbox One X (formerly code-named "Project Scorpio") and its largest and most diverse games lineup in E3 history. Broadcast for the first time in 4K UHD on Mixer, Xbox showcased a record 42 games in its briefing including 22 with console exclusivity from creators large and small. Coming to all Xbox One markets starting Nov. 7, Xbox One X will retail for $499, 449 pounds, 499 euros, CA$599 and AU$649.1
XBox 1X *is* Scorpio ... Vega inside ... $500 ... November 7
Speechless
I will say that the Forza game they demoed looks quite impressive if it really can render the game with those visuals at 4k resolution. It looks like the Scorpio is about 50% more powerful than the PS4 Pro. Not bad at all. The nice thing for us in Canada is that they are pricing it at $599, a very generous conversion from the $499USD MSRP in the USA. I might be interested in one actually depending on the available games. It has a 4k Bluray player which is nice.


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SickBeast - 06-12-2017

So Greg will you be buying a Scorpio?


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SickBeast - 06-12-2017

I would buy one instantly if Microsoft made it possible to run all Xbox One games at 4k resolution on the Scorpio. I'm sure it's technically possible. If they can do that they are going to sell boatloads of them. I don't usually care about backward compatibility for consoles but in this case it would really appeal to me given the increase in resolution for the games.


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SteelCrysis - 06-12-2017

http://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-microsofts-xbox-one-x-compares-to-a-pc/
https://www.techpowerup.com/234268/xbox-one-x-hardware-specs-give-gaming-desktops-a-run-for-their-money
I'm not sure if I can agree with them. Aren't these the same arguments that were dragged out for the PS4 and Xbone?


RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SteelCrysis - 06-12-2017

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xbox-one-x-virtual-reality,34758.html
Quote:Microsoft is setting itself up to embrace mixed reality on the Xbox platform, but it’s also taking a cautious approach to the concept. Whether this is a wise wait-and-see move, or an indication that Microsoft just hasn't been able to figure our VR and MR on the Xbox yet, or something else, the news from E3 is that there is no VR-on-the-Xbox news.



RE: General Console Gaming Thread - SteelCrysis - 06-13-2017

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/250784-microsoft-cross-generational-local-multiplayer-original-xbox-xbox-one-x
Quote:Once upon a time, if you wanted to play multiplayer on a game console, you had to do it with a common television and multiple controllers. This worked plenty well, if you had the right setup — I spent more than a few nights at college slugging it out against friends in Mario Kart — but local multiplayer on a common screen has been superseded by remote multiplayer across multiple consoles in many titles.

Whether one option or the other is “better” is a topic best evaluated on a game-by-game basis, but plenty of gamers have wished for more cooperative or split-screen options when playing. Now, according to Microsoft’s E3 show, some of those options are coming back to the Xbox One. Marketing director head Alex Penello confirmed in a tweet that these options would be available across all four Xbox platforms (the first Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One / One S, and the upcoming Xbox One X).
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Penello also implied that some Xbox games could get a graphical upgrade when they are updated and ported to the newly backwards-compatible Xbox One. “If you saw Crimson Skies on the screen today, it looks great,” he said. “We’re not talking in detail right now, but the team has some tricks up their sleeve, and I think when the OG Xbox games show up, people are going to be very impressed.”

Microsoft has previously offered some details on how the Xbox One X could deliver improved visuals on existing Xbox One games at 1080p, including better antialiasing support via supersampling. Trying to update 16 year-old games to look like their best selves would be a tall order, however. Not only will these games be running at much higher resolutions and on much larger screens than they were designed for, the Xbox launched at a time when CRTs, not LCDs, were still the primary screen technology available on the consumer market.

Microsoft is absolutely capable of tweaking game presentation and assets to improve the final output compared with what we saw in 2001. But it’s not clear if the company will simply do this via some filter presets, or if it’ll actually update game assets to improve how games look and feel.